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War on Circumcision
Wednesday, October 28, 2009
October 26, 2009 - Janel and Rich
October 26
Stuart Fischbein, MD
Obstetric physician from California who is a strong advocate for patient's rights to informed consent and refusal. He is a long-time supporter of midwifery care and creating partnerships with midwives. He is currently one of the few obstetricians to speak publicly and to stand up against his own professional organization on behalf of women's rights to true informed consent and choice. Recently, for allowing patients the dignity of true informed consent in his community he and his midwives are being threatened with disciplinary action. www.supportdrfischbein.blogspot.com.
Dr. Fischbein, obstetrician from northern Los Angeles area, had to cancel and Rich and I winged it. I shared some recent research that showed that mother's breast milk has stem cells in it, meaning that the mother's body CONTINUES TO BUILD the BABY'S BODY for months or years. I shared my personal experience of having a profound connection to my son who is in Afghanistan where 16 American soldiers had died that day. Our conversation zig zagged around the topic of the impact of obstetric interventions on the human being and on society. Rich's paper, Munchausen Obstetrics, link at top of page here, has many, many resources on this topic.
At t the end of the hour, with only minutes left, we had a caller who doubted what we were saying. She said she is a scholar and doesn't believe the anecdotal stories. I gave her a resource, Dr. William Emerson's site, www.EmersonBirthRx.com, but she said that's just one person. Both he and David Chamberlain, PhD are coming out with new books very soon. Dr. Chamberlain is the co-founder of the Association for Pre and Perinatal Psychology and Health, www.birthpsychology.com, founded in the mid eighties. Members are international and include physicians, nurses, psychologists, music and craniosacral therapists, and many, many others all who have done research in the area of the primal period of life. The research is there and it has been for years. Here's one from the seventies, http://www.birthpsychology.com/violence/verny.html.
Aside from the research there is just plain logic ... birth has to matter. Once one embraces how fully present we are in the womb (and before) and at birth one has to stop what they are doing to human babies. Meanwhile, DENIAL permeates every aspect of birth and consideration for the full sentience of the human baby. Why? Because to acknowledge that we are fully present at birth, one has to deal with their own birth, their primal brain imprinting, and how it has created who they are today. And, one has to deal with their own decisions or their own victimization as a woman birthing her children. THIS IS the biggest obstacle. I would bet that our caller had a cesarean, chosen or not, or something profound that happened to her giving birth. Our society doesn't acknowledge it so it doesn't provide or research options to support healing, so people deny it. Babies can't be fully aware. It can't matter what we do to them in the first moments, hours, and days of their life because then we have to deal with what we did to so many babies.
I found my old site cached on google and I am posting links to a couple of pages here. One is a newspaper article about my work in the Peoria Journal Star in October 2003.
The Baby Whisperer
The other is the testimony of the same mother featured in the article about her experience of doing therapy with her baby and me. He was born at home but had to have multiple heart surgeries in his first two weeks. A psychology professor at the local community college wrote a seething "letter to the editor" about my work. This and my response are also on this page and it includes many, many references.
A Mother's Story
With all due respect to our caller, I realized how tired of I am of having to be the one "to prove" with science my premise that we can be kinder, we can honor the mother and baby (soul) being born. The truth is that obstetric medicine isn't and hasn't been scientific based. NEVER were the drugs ever used shown to be safe prior to using on NEWBORNS. Humans, baby humans, are NON-informed, NON-consenting subjects in one long, horrid research project. Obstetric medicine is the place of manufacturing of human deficits and dysfunctions, namely the ones that create broken human connections as well as drug addiction and propensity for violence, for being a culture of people with little respect for the boundaries of others.
So, let me say, "NO, YOU prove that what is being in done in modern medicalized birth for sixty decades is NOT damaging." My guts, my heart, my logic and science tells me is it profoundly damaging.
In November of 2006 a month after my son first deployed to Iraq I began writing on a blog and I wrote 600 pages between November and May. It was my therapy as I wrote about birth, war, obstetrics and mother-child attachment. That blog is www.Hospitalbirthdebate.blogspot.com. It is full, full, full of articles with research to back our discussion.
Stuart Fischbein, MD
Obstetric physician from California who is a strong advocate for patient's rights to informed consent and refusal. He is a long-time supporter of midwifery care and creating partnerships with midwives. He is currently one of the few obstetricians to speak publicly and to stand up against his own professional organization on behalf of women's rights to true informed consent and choice. Recently, for allowing patients the dignity of true informed consent in his community he and his midwives are being threatened with disciplinary action. www.supportdrfischbein.blogspot.com.
Dr. Fischbein, obstetrician from northern Los Angeles area, had to cancel and Rich and I winged it. I shared some recent research that showed that mother's breast milk has stem cells in it, meaning that the mother's body CONTINUES TO BUILD the BABY'S BODY for months or years. I shared my personal experience of having a profound connection to my son who is in Afghanistan where 16 American soldiers had died that day. Our conversation zig zagged around the topic of the impact of obstetric interventions on the human being and on society. Rich's paper, Munchausen Obstetrics, link at top of page here, has many, many resources on this topic.
At t the end of the hour, with only minutes left, we had a caller who doubted what we were saying. She said she is a scholar and doesn't believe the anecdotal stories. I gave her a resource, Dr. William Emerson's site, www.EmersonBirthRx.com, but she said that's just one person. Both he and David Chamberlain, PhD are coming out with new books very soon. Dr. Chamberlain is the co-founder of the Association for Pre and Perinatal Psychology and Health, www.birthpsychology.com, founded in the mid eighties. Members are international and include physicians, nurses, psychologists, music and craniosacral therapists, and many, many others all who have done research in the area of the primal period of life. The research is there and it has been for years. Here's one from the seventies, http://www.birthpsychology.com/violence/verny.html.
Aside from the research there is just plain logic ... birth has to matter. Once one embraces how fully present we are in the womb (and before) and at birth one has to stop what they are doing to human babies. Meanwhile, DENIAL permeates every aspect of birth and consideration for the full sentience of the human baby. Why? Because to acknowledge that we are fully present at birth, one has to deal with their own birth, their primal brain imprinting, and how it has created who they are today. And, one has to deal with their own decisions or their own victimization as a woman birthing her children. THIS IS the biggest obstacle. I would bet that our caller had a cesarean, chosen or not, or something profound that happened to her giving birth. Our society doesn't acknowledge it so it doesn't provide or research options to support healing, so people deny it. Babies can't be fully aware. It can't matter what we do to them in the first moments, hours, and days of their life because then we have to deal with what we did to so many babies.
I found my old site cached on google and I am posting links to a couple of pages here. One is a newspaper article about my work in the Peoria Journal Star in October 2003.
The Baby Whisperer
The other is the testimony of the same mother featured in the article about her experience of doing therapy with her baby and me. He was born at home but had to have multiple heart surgeries in his first two weeks. A psychology professor at the local community college wrote a seething "letter to the editor" about my work. This and my response are also on this page and it includes many, many references.
A Mother's Story
With all due respect to our caller, I realized how tired of I am of having to be the one "to prove" with science my premise that we can be kinder, we can honor the mother and baby (soul) being born. The truth is that obstetric medicine isn't and hasn't been scientific based. NEVER were the drugs ever used shown to be safe prior to using on NEWBORNS. Humans, baby humans, are NON-informed, NON-consenting subjects in one long, horrid research project. Obstetric medicine is the place of manufacturing of human deficits and dysfunctions, namely the ones that create broken human connections as well as drug addiction and propensity for violence, for being a culture of people with little respect for the boundaries of others.
So, let me say, "NO, YOU prove that what is being in done in modern medicalized birth for sixty decades is NOT damaging." My guts, my heart, my logic and science tells me is it profoundly damaging.
In November of 2006 a month after my son first deployed to Iraq I began writing on a blog and I wrote 600 pages between November and May. It was my therapy as I wrote about birth, war, obstetrics and mother-child attachment. That blog is www.Hospitalbirthdebate.blogspot.com. It is full, full, full of articles with research to back our discussion.
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Cut vs Uncut
A Woman Speaks about Being Circumcised as a Woman
Circumcision Played on the air August 31
Even if you can't bear to watch it, just listen. Let this baby's cries speak to your soul. If you can not watch this circumcision be aware that that tells you something very important. It should NOT BE DONE. This baby and many, many other baby boys have experienced this brutality. If you can't watch it or listen to it, remember that the majority of men in our lives experienced this. His penis was being mutilated for no medical or logical reason, against his will, without his consent. This happens to him at the moment that the only thing he needed was to be in their mother's arms, at her breast.
James W Prescott, PhD, Developmental Neuropsychologist
- Video: Rock A Bye Baby
- Origins of Peace and Violence. Deprivation of Physical Affection as a Main Cause of Depression, Aggression and Drug Abuse - website of Prescott's work
- Touch the Future website featuring Prescott's work
- How Culture Shapes the Developing Brain & the Future of Humanity. Research linking brain abnormalites and violence to an absence of nuturing and bonding very early in childhood
"If you have been abused it is a hard thing for you to have a lot of compassion for yourself but if you can, think about the poor defenseless children who are going to come after you who could have a chance at happiness if you are able to face your own trauma. And face it realistically so we don't have to keep doing this. The reason we keep doing this is that we are trying to justify our pain." --Veronica Monet
Discussing the Canadian researcher who hooked up babies and monitored their brains while being circumcised to learn the tragic impact on babies, and who was forced to destroy the research, accused of inappropriate research on babies, Jody McLaughlin, Publisher, "Compleat Mother" told me (Janel): someone should hook up the people who are DOING the circumcision, the adult, the doctor, and see what their brains are doing. Better yet, she added, they could use that equipment they use to research erections and monitor their physiological, sexual response to mutilating a helpless baby. Brilliant, she is so brilliant. Any researchers want to take it on? Any adult doctors WILLING to mutilate baby boys for no good reason willing to be the subjects? Should we give them a choice? Should THEY have a choice while baby boys don't?
Discussing the Canadian researcher who hooked up babies and monitored their brains while being circumcised to learn the tragic impact on babies, and who was forced to destroy the research, accused of inappropriate research on babies, Jody McLaughlin, Publisher, "Compleat Mother" told me (Janel): someone should hook up the people who are DOING the circumcision, the adult, the doctor, and see what their brains are doing. Better yet, she added, they could use that equipment they use to research erections and monitor their physiological, sexual response to mutilating a helpless baby. Brilliant, she is so brilliant. Any researchers want to take it on? Any adult doctors WILLING to mutilate baby boys for no good reason willing to be the subjects? Should we give them a choice? Should THEY have a choice while baby boys don't?
Leave the Cord and Placenta Intact -- Stop cutting!!
"Caution! because just where we least expect it, there are civilized barbarians, which we don't entrust our children." Listen to podcast of Lynn Reed about the many ways American doctors cut women and babies (boys and girls).
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Translation of Italian Video
Thank you, Francesca Geppert.
2. Early clumping stops abruptly natural placental transfusion, and into placenta remains from 30 to 50% of blood for the child.
3. Umbilical cord, after birth too, remainss an exchange channel between mother and child, bringing nourishment and oxygen to the newborn, removing its waste products,until his body will be not able to breathe effectively and to receive oxygen by langs and no more from ombilical arteries.
4. Umbilical cord and stem cells must be leave to the owner!!!!
5.If umbilical cord has cutted before timely, baby will be founded, suddenly, without oxygen and he will live a distressing experience of suffocation ( with the risk of brain damage by anoxia).
6. Reflection is that baby will be forced to inhale much air that, in contact with his mucosal, will causes a terrible burning, like a scalding.
7. late cut of ombilical cord or no cut is the physiological process
8. Immediate cut (early) is an invasive procedure which must be justified; in natural childbirth isn't justified. (O.M.S. Health organization world) - 1985
9. These recommendations of O.M.S even if, are entered in Midwifery story like "Scientific evidence" are not accept and apply in departments of obstetrics
10. Caution! because just where we least expect it, there are civilized barbarians, which we don't entrust our children.
11. There's no need to cut ombilical cord
12. Most simple thing to do is NOT TO DO
Finally they suggest the natural detachment of ombilical cord.
I made my best to give you a good translation, could you forgive me if it will result not perfect.
God bless you
2. Early clumping stops abruptly natural placental transfusion, and into placenta remains from 30 to 50% of blood for the child.
3. Umbilical cord, after birth too, remainss an exchange channel between mother and child, bringing nourishment and oxygen to the newborn, removing its waste products,until his body will be not able to breathe effectively and to receive oxygen by langs and no more from ombilical arteries.
4. Umbilical cord and stem cells must be leave to the owner!!!!
5.If umbilical cord has cutted before timely, baby will be founded, suddenly, without oxygen and he will live a distressing experience of suffocation ( with the risk of brain damage by anoxia).
6. Reflection is that baby will be forced to inhale much air that, in contact with his mucosal, will causes a terrible burning, like a scalding.
7. late cut of ombilical cord or no cut is the physiological process
8. Immediate cut (early) is an invasive procedure which must be justified; in natural childbirth isn't justified. (O.M.S. Health organization world) - 1985
9. These recommendations of O.M.S even if, are entered in Midwifery story like "Scientific evidence" are not accept and apply in departments of obstetrics
10. Caution! because just where we least expect it, there are civilized barbarians, which we don't entrust our children.
11. There's no need to cut ombilical cord
12. Most simple thing to do is NOT TO DO
Finally they suggest the natural detachment of ombilical cord.
I made my best to give you a good translation, could you forgive me if it will result not perfect.
God bless you
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