tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469583249881466651.post510148426785170858..comments2023-11-03T04:18:43.353-07:00Comments on THouGHt CRimE raDIo: Voices for the Human Rights of Babies: Join the discussion with Rich, Janel, Patricia Robinett, and Marilyn MIlosJanel Baby Keeperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16260422219744021309noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469583249881466651.post-91737539154180691242009-12-06T14:29:56.657-08:002009-12-06T14:29:56.657-08:00Restoring Tally, Thank you for sharing that inform...Restoring Tally, Thank you for sharing that information. Would you be interested in being on the show? Men need to hear this.<br /> <br /> Thanks, Sigismond,<br /> I'll read your link later tonight. For now, I want to say I am confused about your statement of contradicting me. It seems you are saying that circumcision IS related to violence, war, plundering, etc which is what I suspect. It's what I am looking at and wondering about and suspect ... although the most brutal man in my life, a spouse, a physician, was not circumcised. There are always exceptions, but I suspect that our collective male mentality in the US (he was not American), is a direct result of the final blow of circumcision of the male children after a series of boundary violations from labor through first hours of life, including the separation of him from his mother and the disruption of breastfeeding. I think the combo of bottle feeding AND circumcision is the most damaging.<br /> Could you clarify how your study contradicts my question to others? Thanks for posting.<br /><br /> December 6, 2009 2:25 PMJanel Baby Keeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16260422219744021309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469583249881466651.post-57863803381409244392009-12-04T16:16:51.235-08:002009-12-04T16:16:51.235-08:00I think it is about time to do those studies to se...I think it is about time to do those studies to see if there is any correlation/causation between circumcision and violence.<br /><br />I was circumcised at birth and I am restoring my foreskin. See www.RestoringForeskin.org and www.RestoringTally.com for details on my restoration efforts.<br /><br />I have noticed that as my foreskin is restored, I have changed. I feel more confident and have a sense of wholeness. Also, I am more emotional, where before I was emotionally distant. Before restoring, I used to avoid touching people and was uncomfortable around strangers. Now that I have been restoring a while, I am better able to connect to others.Restoring Tallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17548938920775502028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469583249881466651.post-39688177574780722472009-12-04T10:18:37.736-08:002009-12-04T10:18:37.736-08:00I believe Obama is circumcised. He has a stiff way...I believe Obama is circumcised. He has a stiff way about him. Though his tribe doesn't circ. Hawaii certainly mostly does. I also have big problems of him appointing New York's Dr. Thomas Friedan. From CircumcisionAndHIV: <br /><br />"You may remember Friedan from his premature statements following the release of the African circumcision trials. He said that the New York City Department of Public Health and Mental Hygiene would consider promoting circumcision among gay men despite the fact that at the time there was no evidence that circumcision would lower HIV rates among men who have sex with men. Shortly thereafter, three studies showed that gay men receive no protection from circumcision against HIV.<br /><br />Justin Wilson of the Center for Consumer Freedom, an advocacy group representing restaurants and food companies, is quoted in Bloomberg as saying that “Friedan doesn’t simply blur the line between what is the government’s responsibility in regulating health and what is the individual’s responsibility; he barely recognizes its existence.” Wilson has gone on to say that Friedan is an “overzealous activist who doesn’t give any consideration to the importance of personal responsibility or privacy.” While it's true Wilson represents those who have a lot to lose from the ban on smoking in public places and the ban on trans-fats served in restaurant food, his point is one with wide application.<br /><br />One doesn't have to think too long or hard to imagine a man like Friedan unwisely pushing for circumcision on a hunch and little proof or thought about the rights of the individual to choose or refuse the procedure - just as the individual can choose or refuse smoking and trans-fats. Admittedly, a key difference is that second hand smoke is a recognized hazard and smokers can still smoke elsewhere. However, banning trans-fats is harder to justify."<br /><br />Not too many years ago a congressional report cited the Us as the most violent nation on earth. This follows James Prescott's Origin of Violence.KOTFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06711334493621537901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469583249881466651.post-40782401795254463332009-12-04T09:03:58.781-08:002009-12-04T09:03:58.781-08:00I also need to say that we are the new authorities...I also need to say that we are the new authorities; this does not mean joining the existing ones, dear (not always) Patricia! :-))Michel Hervé Bertaux-Navoiseauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06758457732714555996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469583249881466651.post-87954958460849313982009-12-04T08:55:51.369-08:002009-12-04T08:55:51.369-08:00About violence in general, the only study is mine ...About violence in general, the only study is mine and I'm afraid it totally contradicts Janel:<br /><br />Genocides, wars, the death penalty, excision, rape, and circumcision<br /> <br />http://circabolition.multiply.com/journal/item/344/Genocides_wars_the_death_penalty_excision_rape_and_circumcision<br /><br />Marilyn is to publish it as an annex of my lecture "Sexual mutilation and the moral order" in the Keele NOCIRC symposium.<br /><br />Here are my main conclusions:<br /><br />Of the eleven genocides of modern times: Congo, Hereros, Armenia, Jews, gipsies, Biafra, Cambodia, Hutus, Tutsis, Bosnia, Darfur, nine, of which four as actors, implied circumcised on one side or the other and two on both sides.<br />Between 1996 and 2002, but for one civil war (Sri Lanka), all wars involved at least one circumcising country; they were more than three times more numerous in circumcising countries.<br />The death penalty is more than twice more common in them.<br />Torture is more widespread in them.<br /><br />The feminicide in Eastern Congo is the work of circumcised Hutu looters who destroy after use those who have functioned as a foreskin for them.<br />Excision, practised in half of circumciser countries, practically exists with them only. It is always financed by dads who have themselves been circumcised with the complicity of their own mums.<br />In Norway, 60% of the rapes are committed by 2% of the population who are circumcised.Michel Hervé Bertaux-Navoiseauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06758457732714555996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469583249881466651.post-35076059034983001012009-12-04T08:46:37.316-08:002009-12-04T08:46:37.316-08:00Dear Janel,
Violence against women shows very lit...Dear Janel,<br /><br />Violence against women shows very little in the police statistics, particularly since ethnic statistics, necessary in Europe where the circumcised are mainly of foreign origin, are forbidden in most countries.<br /><br />However, Professor Inger Hofvander said at the 9th NOCIRC symposium in Seattle that in Norway, 60% of the rapes are committed by 2% of the population who are circumcised.<br /><br />Also, the rate of rape in the USA where most men are circumcised has been of 115/100.000 in 2002/2003 against 82/100.000 in France where only 15% of men are circumcised.Michel Hervé Bertaux-Navoiseauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06758457732714555996noreply@blogger.com